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February 4 1983.the Dramatization

Karen Spirit's Photo Karen Spirit 30 Nov 2007

look this video..is terrible

just a dramatization, about the 4/2/83...but the finally is so nice....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2QO1fNir3M

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Karen Spirit's Photo Karen Spirit 12 Mar 2008

no te puedo creer que nadie contesto.
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Carl's Photo Carl 12 Mar 2008

When I found it in youtube, I saw less than a half of the video and I stopped it. It doesn't seems to me agreeable that someone had done something like that. I find very very sad to know how it would be to walk in that kitchen and to find her dead in the floor. Maybe the video is not about this (I have not seen it in complete form, I just couldn't) but, I had the feeling that it is.
I think we don't need to see a video to know how terribly it was... the Karen's leave. cry.gif

Anyway, thank you for sharing it rolleyes.gif
Edited by Carl, 12 March 2008 - 04:38 PM.
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NedNickerson's Photo NedNickerson 12 Mar 2008

The re-enactment was from Todd Haynes film, "Superstar: The Karen Carpenter Story."

It's posted on YouTube. You can also download a version of it here:
http://www.illegal-art.org/video/popups/superstar.html
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Interpretations's Photo Interpretations 07 Apr 2008

It's horrible
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suspendedIngaffa's Photo suspendedIngaffa 08 Apr 2008

QUOTE (SimonJBurrows @ Apr 7 2008, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's horrible


Personally, I don't think Haynes' film was that 'horrible'. It might have taken some factual liberties, and certainly portrayed some people in a harsher light than they deserved, but it was made with sincerity with the purpose of putting a message out there about anorexia nervosa.

Anyway, I am just amazed this youtube user called whatever this mesh of stuff was an 'orginal film'. wacko.gif Using nearly 2 minutes of another movie then adding parts of a couple of music videos with some weird desert scenes along with several seconds of home movies does not an original film make... that was just weird.
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CarpsButtonFan's Photo CarpsButtonFan 08 Apr 2008

QUOTE (SimonJBurrows @ Apr 7 2008, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's horrible


Wtf!! shutup.gif wacko.gif Yeah! Gotta say it's a bit.... unsure.gif ... unsure.gif ....scary I suposse.... unsure.gif

Valdemar, he's latin american...that's for sure.....From where? IHNI unsure.gif
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RxTechRN2b's Photo RxTechRN2b 30 Apr 2008

When I first saw the Todd Haynes barbie doll movie, I hated it because it seemed so "ugly" in the way it portrayed the Carpenter family. But the more times I watch it, I realize what a masterpiece it is. Haynes really nailed it when it comes to the inner workings of Karen and her family. Does anyone know what the spanking is supposed to mean? Is it Karen's dad spanking her? That scene is so short it's barely there and you have to wonder if you saw what you thought you saw.
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cam83's Photo cam83 30 Apr 2008

The spanking is more of an illustration of the fact that Karen had no control, and was kind of treated like a child. For example...Dan O'Neill, husband of Cherry Boone, Pat Boone's daughter and eldest sis of Debby Boone...she battled anorexia (Cherry) and because she was hiding laxatives and he caught her in the act, he pulled her across the knee and spanked her...she was like 26 or something and got spanked by her husband.

So maybe, it was to show that Karen would act like a child, she would be treated like a child...in context with the film and how they percieved everything...

My thoughts,
Cam
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betossantana's Photo betossantana 30 Apr 2008

Thanks for shedding an hypothetical light on this, I was not sure about the meaning of those spanking scenes either and I think you've got a point on your opinion.
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LeadSister's Photo LeadSister 01 May 2008

I've wondered about that scene myself. Thanks for your insight on it. Does make sense.
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KC#1fan's Photo KC#1fan 06 Jul 2008

the whole video "Superstar" is only 43min. long....i thought it was like 2 hours lol
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