Karen In My Dreams
Mister H
14 Jan 2010
Have you ever dreamed of Karen Carpenter ? Do you think it had a meaning of some kind ?
Every so often, maybe just once or twice a year, I have a dream that involves Karen Carpenter.
The last one was a few nights ago and was different in that I spoke to her. The scene seemed to be that we were recording a video for a track that had been on Karen's solo album (I can't remember the song the video was being shot for and was playing in the background, but I am pretty sure it was from the solo album) and I asked her if she was happy with what had been shot so far or did she want to do any re-takes.
Karen's reply was hidden behind her hand as though she didn't feel confident saying what was on her mind. At is point she looked as young as she did in those photos taken in the late 1960s / early 1970s.
The video being shot was very artistic and daring compared to many "Carpenters" videos and was in black and white. In fact the whole dream seemed to be in black and white.
Then I said to Karen how glad I was that she had beaten her anorexia and that she was still with us all these years later. As soon as I said that, it was as though I knew the person standing in front of me wasn't Karen at all, but her spirit.
It's hard to describe what she looked like, apart from to say that she looked well, healthy and was smiling. She also looked older (in a good way) than in any photo I have seen.
I woke up feeling as though I'd had a glimpse of the Karen Carpenter that still exists somewhere other than here.
Every so often, maybe just once or twice a year, I have a dream that involves Karen Carpenter.
The last one was a few nights ago and was different in that I spoke to her. The scene seemed to be that we were recording a video for a track that had been on Karen's solo album (I can't remember the song the video was being shot for and was playing in the background, but I am pretty sure it was from the solo album) and I asked her if she was happy with what had been shot so far or did she want to do any re-takes.
Karen's reply was hidden behind her hand as though she didn't feel confident saying what was on her mind. At is point she looked as young as she did in those photos taken in the late 1960s / early 1970s.
The video being shot was very artistic and daring compared to many "Carpenters" videos and was in black and white. In fact the whole dream seemed to be in black and white.
Then I said to Karen how glad I was that she had beaten her anorexia and that she was still with us all these years later. As soon as I said that, it was as though I knew the person standing in front of me wasn't Karen at all, but her spirit.
It's hard to describe what she looked like, apart from to say that she looked well, healthy and was smiling. She also looked older (in a good way) than in any photo I have seen.
I woke up feeling as though I'd had a glimpse of the Karen Carpenter that still exists somewhere other than here.
Steventide
07 Feb 2011
QUOTE (Mister H @ Jan 14 2010, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Have you ever dreamed of Karen Carpenter ? Do you think it had a meaning of some kind ?
Every so often, maybe just once or twice a year, I have a dream that involves Karen Carpenter........
Every so often, maybe just once or twice a year, I have a dream that involves Karen Carpenter........
Same here, about twice a year. I write down a lot of my dreams and back on staturday January 22 I took a three hour nap and had a Karen dream. We were in a kitchen and making something in a blender that was to then be put on top of the stove. After I woke up I got to thinking about how weird that was putting a blender on a stove burner. In dreams kitchens conjure up feelings of love and affection according to a dream interpretation book I have. Its interesting in the dream you don't think a thing of it, afterwards it hits you! I don't think its Karen per se but our feelings toward her, same for any synchronicities that may occur, just a reflection of our feelings.
Mister H
08 Feb 2011
QUOTE (Steventide @ Feb 8 2011, 04:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Same here, about twice a year. I write down a lot of my dreams and back on staturday January 22 I took a three hour nap and had a Karen dream. We were in a kitchen and making something in a blender that was to then be put on top of the stove. After I woke up I got to thinking about how weird that was putting a blender on a stove burner. In dreams kitchens conjure up feelings of love and affection according to a dream interpretation book I have. Its interesting in the dream you don't think a thing of it, afterwards it hits you! I don't think its Karen per se but our feelings toward her, same for any synchronicities that may occur, just a reflection of our feelings.
Interesting dream you had there, especially if it involved food considering Karen's feelings towards eating. Maybe she wanted to put the blender on the stove to destroy the food and, therefore, not have to eat it ?
For me 2010 was a very busy year on the dreams front and since I wrote that post, I have had too many to count. I've not had any for a few months now and it's got to a point, that not having any feels unusual and I really miss them.
I've made a note of those I remember but I've no idea how to determine f it is Karen trying to communicate (although I think on some level that she is), but it's a fascinating subject.
Steventide
11 Feb 2011
I just noticed that you're first post was from last year!
I had another Karen dream back on Christmas. I walked into this office building and I wasn't wearing a shirt, just pants and shoes. I think it was hot outside. Anyway I walked over to this cubical, sat down and Karen was there. I took my shoes off and put them up on top of her cubical wall except it wasn't a complete cubical, there was alot of open area. I didn't have anything to say and she was talking to some other guy there. She told me not to come over there anymore and that I looked like an idiot without my shirt on and then I got up and grabbed my shoes. She insulted me for putting my shoes up on her wall and other people in the office were laughing at me, then I walked out. Shoes can denote authority or domination according to my dream interpretation book. I felt the need to take them off and they were over me. I didn't feel worthy of being there, had nothing to say, I was being rejected.
I often have dreams that take place in an office environment although I haven't worked in an office in years. I don't think Karen ever worked in an office with her own cubicle yet. I think that Karen, or any other celeb, represents a part of your higher self trying to communicate with you and guide you in some way.
I had another Karen dream back on Christmas. I walked into this office building and I wasn't wearing a shirt, just pants and shoes. I think it was hot outside. Anyway I walked over to this cubical, sat down and Karen was there. I took my shoes off and put them up on top of her cubical wall except it wasn't a complete cubical, there was alot of open area. I didn't have anything to say and she was talking to some other guy there. She told me not to come over there anymore and that I looked like an idiot without my shirt on and then I got up and grabbed my shoes. She insulted me for putting my shoes up on her wall and other people in the office were laughing at me, then I walked out. Shoes can denote authority or domination according to my dream interpretation book. I felt the need to take them off and they were over me. I didn't feel worthy of being there, had nothing to say, I was being rejected.
I often have dreams that take place in an office environment although I haven't worked in an office in years. I don't think Karen ever worked in an office with her own cubicle yet. I think that Karen, or any other celeb, represents a part of your higher self trying to communicate with you and guide you in some way.
Mister H
27 Feb 2011
QUOTE (Steventide @ Feb 12 2011, 03:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just noticed that you're first post was from last year!
I had another Karen dream back on Christmas. I walked into this office building and I wasn't wearing a shirt, just pants and shoes. I think it was hot outside. Anyway I walked over to this cubical, sat down and Karen was there. I took my shoes off and put them up on top of her cubical wall except it wasn't a complete cubical, there was alot of open area. I didn't have anything to say and she was talking to some other guy there. She told me not to come over there anymore and that I looked like an idiot without my shirt on and then I got up and grabbed my shoes. She insulted me for putting my shoes up on her wall and other people in the office were laughing at me, then I walked out. Shoes can denote authority or domination according to my dream interpretation book. I felt the need to take them off and they were over me. I didn't feel worthy of being there, had nothing to say, I was being rejected.
I often have dreams that take place in an office environment although I haven't worked in an office in years. I don't think Karen ever worked in an office with her own cubicle yet. I think that Karen, or any other celeb, represents a part of your higher self trying to communicate with you and guide you in some way.
I had another Karen dream back on Christmas. I walked into this office building and I wasn't wearing a shirt, just pants and shoes. I think it was hot outside. Anyway I walked over to this cubical, sat down and Karen was there. I took my shoes off and put them up on top of her cubical wall except it wasn't a complete cubical, there was alot of open area. I didn't have anything to say and she was talking to some other guy there. She told me not to come over there anymore and that I looked like an idiot without my shirt on and then I got up and grabbed my shoes. She insulted me for putting my shoes up on her wall and other people in the office were laughing at me, then I walked out. Shoes can denote authority or domination according to my dream interpretation book. I felt the need to take them off and they were over me. I didn't feel worthy of being there, had nothing to say, I was being rejected.
I often have dreams that take place in an office environment although I haven't worked in an office in years. I don't think Karen ever worked in an office with her own cubicle yet. I think that Karen, or any other celeb, represents a part of your higher self trying to communicate with you and guide you in some way.
I don't think that Karen ever worked in an office either.
I don't know what to make of Karen being in a dream where you were treated in that way. Being partly naked or naked in a dream can mean fear of something being found out, or at least I read that somewhere once.
I had a dream the other night where I seemed to be in the middle of a play rehearsal where the other people on stage would be playing the characters of Harold, Agnes and Richard. We were going through the script and I was checking that Harold and Agnes would be referred to Mr and Mrs Carpenter rather than their Christian names. It was decided it would be better to take the formal approach.
The only thing I remember about the script was seeing the surname "Williams", which might have been a reference to Paul Williams.
I've often thought that a play without the music (as Richard would probably not allow it to be used) to tell the story of Karen's life would be a good alternative to a film.
Steventide
02 Mar 2011
QUOTE (Mister H @ Feb 27 2011, 06:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know what to make of Karen being in a dream where you were treated in that way. Being partly naked or naked in a dream can mean fear of something being found out, or at least I read that somewhere once.
I had a dream the other night where I seemed to be in the middle of a play rehearsal where the other people on stage would be playing the characters of Harold, Agnes and Richard. We were going through the script and I was checking that Harold and Agnes would be referred to Mr and Mrs Carpenter rather than their Christian names. It was decided it would be better to take the formal approach.
The only thing I remember about the script was seeing the surname "Williams", which might have been a reference to Paul Williams.
I've often thought that a play without the music (as Richard would probably not allow it to be used) to tell the story of Karen's life would be a good alternative to a film.
I had a dream the other night where I seemed to be in the middle of a play rehearsal where the other people on stage would be playing the characters of Harold, Agnes and Richard. We were going through the script and I was checking that Harold and Agnes would be referred to Mr and Mrs Carpenter rather than their Christian names. It was decided it would be better to take the formal approach.
The only thing I remember about the script was seeing the surname "Williams", which might have been a reference to Paul Williams.
I've often thought that a play without the music (as Richard would probably not allow it to be used) to tell the story of Karen's life would be a good alternative to a film.
Nakedness can be a yearning for lost innocence and being oblivious to it can also indicate you don't worry what people think of you. Clothes are exterior symbols of our inner self. I think for all of us listening to the Carps is a desire to go back to an earlier time in our lives. Maybe Karen's insult was for me(us) to be more in the here and now.
Our unconscious may use a dream-play to express what we think and feel that we may exclude from the conscious mind. Plays can tell a lot. I remember a play about the Nelsons I saw back in the early 70s. They were just their usual innocent friendly selves when suddenly David showed up back from Vietnam blind with Vietnamese wife and they tried to continue to be like they were on TV and it was really awkward yet funny as well. That kind of blunt reality could be used to explore Karen's anorexia that was sort of swept away from the public eye until after she died, also her marriage and solo album.


